Tag: Hell

Satan will not only be burned up and devoured by fire He will also be brought to Ashes. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ASHES upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. Ezekiel 28:18 (Emphasis supplied)

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (WICKED WILL BE DEVOURED)

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

DEVIL WILL BURN FOR AGES AND AGES UNTIL HE IS BROUGHT TO ASHES AS MENTIONED IN EZE 28:18

The greek word forever should have been translated as ages and ages.

A proper understanding of hell fire can be learned from a similar hell fire in the past.

2 Peter 2:6—”And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly.”

The fire of Sodom and Gomorrow is the example of what will happen to ungodly. Morever the Sodom and Gomorrow fire is called as ETERNAL FIRE.

Jude 7—”Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.” (Emphasis supplied)

Also read the below links which will be a great help to you.

http://www.thetruthabouthell.net/

http://www.worldincrisis.org/Defending-God/defendinggod4.htm

Also to have correct understanding of entire Rev 20 please see the below link http://www.1000yearmillennium.com/

After all the other wicked burn satan burns further for ages and ages because. Eugene gives the below calculation in his book Deeper Final That the scapegoat (representing satan) bears the sins of the congregation in the Day of Atonement • That there have been an estimated 35 to 70 billion persons alive since creation • That if only 1 in 700 of 35 billion were saved at last, that would be 50 million • That if the Devil burned only two minutes for each of these persons, that would come to 190 years.

Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yes, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Matthew 10:28—”And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

Please keep the above verses as key

Parable of Richman and Lazarus has two dead characters talking to each other. But other Bible passages say that Dead don’t now anything and they don’t communicate. Is there any contradictions in Bible. 

Please refer the the below link for verses which tells us that.

https://thegladtidings.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/problems-with-the-popular-christian-teaching-of-hell-and-death/

Bible also tells us that the Jews at the time of teaching believed in many Pagan teaching including reincarnation and eternal torture in hell.

One such example is Jews asking John whether he is the reincarnated Elijah to that John replies ‘no’ but Jesus tells us that John came with the spirit of Elijah,

And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No John 1:21

And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them Matthew 17:10-12

Second event is when the disciples of Jesus asking Him about a man born blind asking whether he was born blind because of his sins(in previous birth)

And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. John 9:2-3

Jesus sometimes meet them in their own ground. For example Jesus calls a gentile woman as dog (he is using the words of Jews to teach them a lesson)

Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs. Matthew 15:25-26

Apostle Paul also uses a similiar style of teaching. Dead cannot be baptised since they can’t choose salvation after they die and their probation is already closed. But Paul mentions that to teach them that there is resurrection of dead.

Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? 1 Corinthians 15:29

Jesus uses the pagan teaching of eternal torture in hell to teach Jews a lesson. Remember Jesus didn’t tell them that Lazarus was righteous and he deserved Heaven. Lazarus was just a beggar who lacked any earthly pleasure (symbolizing gentiles whom jews considered as ones lacking knowledge of true God) but will be provided the gospel and inheritance as seed of Abraham (He is shown sitting in bosom of Abraham) whereas the rich man who had all pleasures (symbolizing jews who had the law and prophets) will be denied Abraham’s bosom because they didnt believe in the law and prophets.

‎1 Pet 3 :19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

The above verse is used to teach that Jesus went to hell to preach to the unrepented souls.

So the above teaching gives rise to the belief that there is a chance of repentance after death (something like purgatory teaching in catholism)

Let us examine this biblically.

The passage appears to teach that Jesus went to hell to preach to unrepented souls because of CUMBERSOME TRANSLATION.

Bible says once we die the next thing is judgement there is no second chance.

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

A parallel verse to 1 Pet 3:19 is Psalm 142:7 Bring my soul out of prison, that I may praise thy name: the righteous shall compass me about; for thou shalt deal bountifully with me.

So it does not mean Jesus preached to “spirit being without body’ which were in prison. Because David uses a similiar language ‘bring my soul out of prison’

When you are evangelizing what do you refer that to saving souls it means saving persons.

When was this preaching done which is being refered in 1 Pet 3:19, who did the preaching.

We need to study the whole passage which will give us the correct context.

18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

In verse 18 it says Jesus was put to death but he was quickened BY THE SPIRIT. We need to note this very carefully. HE WAS QUICKENED BY THE SPIRIT. It is not in the spirit but by the spirit. It is Holy Spirit who resurrected Jesus. God the Father resurrected Jesus through His Holy Spirit.

In Verse 19 it says BY WHICH (by Holy Spirit) he (Jesus) went and preached unto the spirits in prision. What is prision here Paul says “bringing me into captivity to the law of sin.” David says soul out of prision. Prison here is the captivity of sin.

Jesus preached through Holy Spirit to the souls in the prison of sin. When did He preach them. Note nowhere it says Jesus went to these spirits after He is dead and in spirit He went. But verse 20 says
when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah,

https://thegladtidings.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/problems-with-the-popular-christian-teaching-of-hell-and-death/

In this doc you can see that death is a period of unconciousness. For example

Eccl. 9:5,6,10 “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.Whatsoever thy hand finds to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither you go.

Psalms 6.5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

Psalms 146.4 His breath goes forth, he returns to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Job 14.10-15 But man dies, and wastes away: yes, man gives up the ghost, and where is he? So man lies down, and rises not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. O that you would hide me in the grave, that you would keep me secret, until your wrath be past, that you will appoint me a set time, and remember me! If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my
change come. Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee:

Luke 23:43
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
 
Jesus tells the repented thief that he will be in paradise. When is the question we need to find?
 
According to the translation it is on Friday after Jesus’ death.
 
But I believe the translation is wrong because of the following reasons.
 
Reason 1: Jesus Himself didn’t go to paradise.
 
Where is Paradise then.

2 Corinthians 12:2,4 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
 
The paradise is in third heaven. So what is third heaven, is it the same place where God the Father resides. (interestingly the evangelicals and pentecostals teach that Jesus went to hell after death) Also they teach that Paradise is under that earth.

Revelation 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
 
Tree of life is in midst of the paradise of God.
 
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.  Rev 22: 2 (Paradise is the same place as new Jerusalem).
 
New Jerusalem is in heaven.
 
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Rev 21:2
 
Conclusion: Paradise is heaven where God is.
 
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.  John 20:17.
 
Jesus Himself didn’t go until the third day after His death.
 
Reason 2: After death it is a period of sleep until the day of resurrection when people will resurrect unto eternal life or eternal damnation.
 
John 5:  28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,  29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
 
1 Thes 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 
Daniel 12: 1And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be  found written in the book.  2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
 
Eccl. 9:5,6,10 “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.Whatsoever thy hand finds to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither you go.
 
Psalms 6.5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
 
Psalms 146.4 His breath goes forth, he returns to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
 
Job 14.10-15 But man dies, and wastes away: yes, man gives up the ghost, and where is he? So man lies down, and rises not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. O that you would hide me in the grave, that you would keep me secret, until your wrath be past, that you will appoint me a set time, and remember me!  If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee:
 
Job 3.11 Why died I not at birth?… For now should I have lain still and been quiet, I should have slept: then had I been at rest.
 
1 Thess. 4.14-17 “For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which SLEEP in Jesus will God bring with him. vs. 4:13 “But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.” Jesus will bring the sleeping saints home to heaven as well! He will raise them with a
shout, with the trump of God,
 
Acts 13.36 “For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, FELL ON SLEEP, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:”
 
Matthew 9.24 “He said unto them (the mourners), Make room: for the maid is not dead, but sleeps. And they laughed him to scorn.” “For they knew she was dead.”(see also Luke 8:53)
 
Deut. 31:16 Moses was told he would sleep with his fathers
 
1 Kings 2:10 David slept with his fathers
 
Daniel 12:2 after a time of trouble, Michael will arise and the dead will awake from the dust of the earth
 
Matthew 9:24 Jesus described the dead girl as sleeping
 
Matthew 27:52-53 after the resurrection of Jesus, many dead saints arose from their sleep and appeared to many
 
John 11:11 Jesus described the death of Lazarus as a sleep
 
Acts 7:60 when Stephen was martyred he fell asleep
 
1 Cor. 15:18 Paul describes the dead as asleep until the resurrection of the
dead

Note:

 Many people do not realize that the original Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts did not have any puncuation, no commas, periods etc. So the translated added the puncuation etc. based on their …own understanding of the the bible text. And in this case the text says: “And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.” But many bible scholars believe that the comma added after the word thee, is incorrect. There should be no comma there. Look how it reads if we remove the comma after the word thee and put it in after the word today. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee Today, shalt thou be with me in paradise. The additional scriptures you posted support and also confirms that the Lord Jesus was not telling him that he would be in paradise with him today…but rather He was saying truly I say unto you today, you will be with me in paradise.