Is Christ the end of Law – Part 3

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; Eph 2:15

Paul is not talking about Ten Commandments here because doing so will be contradicting his own statement in Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. The same Greek word καταργέω is translated as void in rom 3:31 and abolished in Eph 2:15. In rom 3:31 Paul writes that we don’t make the law void but we Establish it.

Also See Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.  1 cor 7 : 19. Paul makes a line of distinction between the law of Moses and Commandments of God here. He says keeping of the commandments of does matters.

In Rom 7: 22 He says that ” For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: “, verse 25 he say “So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God;” So Paul always served the Law of God.

But in Eph 2:15 He is speaking about the law of commandments contained in ordinances. The greek word used here as ordinances is δόγμα which means the ceremonies. Also see the word occurs only one more time in New testament. It is in Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; The ordinances here are the ceremonies (Drink offering, meat offering, Festival Sabbath)  which were type to the ministry of Christ see Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

To know more on this see http://www.colossians-2-16.com/

Is Christ the end of Law – Part 2

Another passage which is commonly misunderstood and sometimes wrongly translated ( as in Tamil Bible) is Rom 7.

 Rom 7:4,6 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ;..But now we are delivered from the law,..

This is commonly used as a reason for teaching that we need not keep the Moral Law or Ten commandments. In Tamil Bible it is even translated as we are dead to the Law of God… and delivered from the Law of God.

But Paul is not talking about the Law of God in the Rom 7:1-6. He says we are delivered from the Law of sin and we are dead to the Law of sin.
For I delight in the law of Godafter the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to thelaw of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.Rom 7:22 – 25 Rom 8:1,2 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Is Christ the end of Law – Part 1

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Romans 10:4

The translators of KJV were protestants who didn’t believe the difference between ceremonial Laws (which were shadow of Christ ministration) and the Moral Law (which is everlasting). So they translated the Greek word τέλος telos as  end in Rom 10:4 but the correct translation should be For Christ is the purpose or the focusof the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

See how the word telos is used in other verses

Now the endof the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: 1 Timothy 1:5

Receivingthe end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. 1 Peter 1:9

..Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord.. James 5:11

just imagine if Christ is the end of Law as some people interpret and teach then I can commit adultery, fornication.

To be continued..

Ellen White Predicts the False Tongues Movement

With reference to the fanatical excitement, which included tongues-speaking, that attended one group of people who set the time of Jesus’ coming at 1854, Ellen White wrote: “Some of these persons have exercises which they call gifts and say that the Lord has placed them in the church. They have an unmeaning gibberish which they call the unknown tongue, which is unknown not only to man but by the Lord and all heaven.Such gifts are manufactured by men and women, aided by the great deceiver. Fanaticism, false excitement, false talking in tongues, and noisy exercises have been considered gifts which God has placed in the church. . . . But the influence of such meetings is not beneficial. When the happy flight of feeling is gone, they sink lower than before the meeting because their happiness did not come from the right source” (Testimony for the Church, vol. 1, p. 412).

As early as 1850, Ellen White was shown the order that existed in heaven and among the angels of God. She was then warned about “the exercises,” and was told that they were “in great danger of being adulterated, . . .therefore implicit confidence could not be placed in these exercises.” She then said, “I saw that we should strive at all times to be free from unhealthy and unnecessary excitement. I saw that there was great danger of leaving the Word of God and resting down and trusting in exercises. I saw that God had moved by His Spirit upon your company in some of their exercises and their promptings; but I saw danger ahead” (Ms 11, 1850, see Manuscript Releases, vol. 5, pp. 226, 227).

“The things you have described as taking place in Indiana, the Lord has shown me would take place just before the close of probation. Every uncouth thing will be demonstrated. There will be shouting, with drums, music, and dancing. The senses of rational beings will become so confused that they cannot be trusted to make right decisions. And this is called the moving of the Holy Spirit.
“The Holy Spirit never reveals itself in such methods, in such a bedlam of noise. This is an invention of Satan to cover up his ingenious methods for making of none effect the pure, sincere,elevating, ennobling, sanctifying truth for this time” (Selected Messages, vol. 2, p. 36).

“During those trying days some of our most precious believers were led into fanaticism. I said further that before the end we would see strange manifestations by those who professed to be led by the Holy Spirit. There are those who will treat as something of great importance these peculiar manifestations, which are not of God, but which are calculated to divert the minds of many away from the teaching of the Word” (Selected Messages, vol. 2, p. 41).

Those things which have been in the past will be in the future. Satan will make music a snare by the way in which it is conducted” (Selected Messages, vol. 2, p. 38)

Gift of Tongues

1. What is the commission of Christ to His Disciples before ascending to heaven?
Mark 16: 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

For the Apostles who were mostly unlearned and ignorant men (Acts 4:13) preaching gospel to every creature in this world will be nearly an impossible task.

Jesus promises a new gift (Which was not given to any man in human history until the day of Pentecost)

Mark 16: 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;   (They will be speaking in new tongues note the word in plural)

2. What happened when the gift of tongues was given?

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? Acts 2: 4 -12.

When the gift of tongues was given apostles were able to speak in tongues which they don’t know.

3. What are other incidents when gift of tongues is given when receiving Baptism of Holy Ghost.

He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. Acts 19: 2-6

And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.  For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Acts 10: 45, 46

In both the incidents the gift of tongues were given when there were people of different tongues.

4. What happened when people of same tongue received the Baptism of Holy Spirit?

Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.  Acts 8: 15 -17.
We don’t find the account of speaking an unknown tongue here.
5. Is gift of tongues a sign for the believer?
Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: 1 cor 14 : 22
We find such experience in cornelius incident. Jews wouldn’t have accepted him a gentile if He has not spoken with them with the gift of tongues.
And they of the circumcisionwhich believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.  For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Acts 10: 45 – 47

“For the Jews require a sign” 1 cor 1: 22

Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.  But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; Mat 12 : 38 – 39

Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.  John 4:48

They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? John 6:30

6. Do all speak in tongues?

 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 1 cor 12: 17, 29, 30

7. Who decides in which gift we will receive?

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;  1 cor 12:8 (And Paul lists the gifts of Spirit To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: )

8. What is the purpose of this gifts?

Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good 1 cor 12::7 NIV

9. Which are the important gifts we should desire for..

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 1 cor 12 : 28

Here Paul puts apostles in the top of the list followed by prophets and puts tongues in the bottom of the list. ( Dowe find some churches putting gift of tongues in top)

1 cor 12 : 31 But covet earnestly the best gifts:

10.  Which is the best of all gifts.

1 cor 12: 31 …. yet shew I unto you a more excellent way. 1 cor 13: 13.. But the greatest of these is love. (NIV)

11. Did Paul spoke in the tongues of angels?

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels 1 cor 13:1

Paul writes in v3 that ‘though I give my body to be burned’ when he was still alives (Besides this he was not burned alive; he was beheaded) Paul in v1 tries to say though he speaks in tongues of angels if he dont have love it profiteth nothing. When comparing v3 it appears v1 doesn’t necessarily mean that he speaks in tongues of Angels.

12. Will Satan deceive God’s people by perfoming counterfeit miracles and healings?

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.  2 cor 11:14

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Mat 7: 21,22

Jesus says he never knew them.

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 1 Thes 2:9

13. Will Satan counterfeit the gift of tongues also.

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.Rev 16: 13, 14

Apostle John predicts spirits of devils working miracles. These spirits are like frogs. Don’t we see people shouting and leaping like frog and call it as gift of tongues.

14. Will true worship of Jehovah exhibits in shouting and getting excited and emotional.

1 cor 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

Do we find Jesus or any of His apostles jumping, shouting and getting excited and emotional in name of Holy Spirit. Do we see such incident in Old testament.

Do we see any incident in which Jesus or apsotles pushing people and calling it ‘slaying in Spirit’ or ‘baptism of fire’

There is only one incident of slaying by Jesus that too at His enemies.

They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them. As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.John 18: 5, 6

15. What is the mysteries in 1 cor 14:2

In Verse 1 Paul says He encourages corinthian Church for the gift of prophecy  so that they can edify, exhort and comfort the church (see v3). If anyone speakes in an unknown Tongue and no one is there to interpret what he is speaking (see v27, 28) then whatever He speaks though spiritual will be a mystery to the hearers. (see v16, 19)

Understanding Ellen White’s message on Meat eating

Ellen White gives the below reasons for why we should not eat meat.

I have never felt that it was my duty to say that no one should taste meat under any circumstance. To say this . . . would be carrying matters to extremes.I have never felt that it was my duty to make sweeping assertions. Letter 76 (June 6), 1895.  I advise every Sabbath-keeping canvasser to avoid meat eating, not because it is regarded as sin to eat meat, but because it is not healthful. 

Again and again I have been shown that God is trying to lead us back, step by step, to His original design,–that man should subsist upon the natural products of the earth. Among those who are waiting for the coming of the Lord, meat-eating will eventually be done away; flesh will cease to form a part of their diet. We should ever keep this end in view, and endeavor to work steadily toward it.
Two reasons one it is unhealthy and the other God is asking as to go back to the original diet. (I ll be posting an article on this. Is Going back to original diet Biblical? Thorough out the Bible we can see the principles of going back to the blue print.) She writes to say no one should taste meat under any circumstance is carrying matter to extremes.
But Ellen White struggled for many years to leave flesh diet even though she believed and preached it. We should remember this message is from God not from Ellen White.

Since Ellen White ate meat they use this as a reason for rejecting her as a prophet and her message. Let us remember Ellen White is not our example.  Even after coming to the knowledge of  truth it takes time to leave some Old habits. Essential thing is a heart willing to obey. God helps us to obey His principles.

There is real common sense in dietetic reform. The subject should be studied broadly and deeply, and no one should criticize others because their practice is not, in all things, in harmony with his own. It is impossible [in matters of diet] to make an unvarying rule to regulate everyone’s habits, and no one should think himself a criterion for all.  MH 319, 320.

In a letter to a non Adventist she writes.

I am happy to assure you that as a denomination we are in the fullest sense total abstainers from the use of spiritous liquors, wine, beer, [fermented] cider, and also tobacco and all other narcotics. . . . All are vegetarians, many abstaining wholly from the use of flesh food, while others use it in only the most moderate degree.

Ellen White applies the term vegetarian to those who habitually abstained from eating flesh food, yet were not necessarily total abstainers. So Ellwn White is not a hypocrite in teaching vegetarian diet and sometimes eating meat.
It took time for her to leave meat eating. Other wise she took meat when other food is not available or the meat (butter) is from healthy animals.

Since the camp meeting at Brighton (January, 1894) I have absolutely banished meat from my table. It is an understanding that whether I am at home or abroad, nothing of this kind is to be used in my family, or come upon my table. I have had much representation before my mind in the night season on this subject. {CD 488.1}

We purchase butter for cooking purposes from dairies where the cows are in healthy condition, and have good pasture. Counsels on Diet and Foods p. 488
“Two years ago [1894] I came to the conclusion that there was danger in using the flesh of dead animals, and since then I have not used meat at all. It is never placed on my table. I use fish when I can get it. We can get beautiful fish from the saltwater lake near here. I use neither tea nor coffee. As I labor against these things, I cannot but practice that which I know to be best for health, and my family are all in perfect harmony with me. You see, my dear niece, that I am telling you matters just as they are.”

A few weeks after the duck eating experience in the Rockies in October 1873, Elder and Mrs. White were in California and she on February 15, 1874, reported that since they had been in that state they had dropped meat entirely, having “bought meat once for May Walling while she was sick,but not a penny have we expended for meat since.”–Letter 12, 1874, p. 1

Now as to my own experience: Meat seldom appears on my table; for weeks at a time I would not taste it, and after my appetite had been trained, I grew stronger, and could do better work. When I came to the Retreat, I determined not to taste meat, but I could get scarcely anything else to eat, and therefore ate a little meat. . . . {7MR 349.3}

   “Not a morsel of meat or butter has been on my table since I returned.We have milk, fruit, grains, and vegetables. For a time I lost all desire for food. Like the children of Israel, I hankered after flesh meats. But I firmly refused to have meat bought or cooked. I was weak and trembling, as every one who subsists on meat will be when deprived of the stimulus. But now my appetite has returned, I enjoy bread and fruit, my head is generally clear, and my strength firmer. I have none of the goneness so common with meat eaters. I have had my lesson, and, I hope, learned it well. . . .
“In regard to our diet, we have not placed butter on our table for ourselves for years, until we came to the Rocky Mountains. We felt that a little butter, in the absence of vegetables and fruit was less detrimental to health than the use of much salt or sugar, sweet cake and knickknacks. We do not use it now, and have not for many weeks.”–Letter 1, 1873, p. 12
Often while there [at the Rural Health Institute, St. Helena, Calif.] I was compelled to eat meat because there was nothing else that I could eat.At times I would be so faint and dizzy for the want of good wholesome food that I fairly reeled through weakness. [The cook] has not made it her study to prepare wholesome dishes in order that flesh meat as a food may become less and less necessary.–Letter 4, 1884, p. 3. (To Brother and Sister Maxson, February 6, 1884.)

Country Living and City Evangelism

Ellen White taught to people who lived in her time to evangelize cities but not to stay in them.

The time has come, when, as God opens the way, families should move out of the cities. The children should be taken into the country. The parents should get as suitable a place as their means will allow. Though the dwelling may be small, yet there should be land in connection with it, that may be cultivated.–Manuscript 50, 1903.

Out of the cities, is my message at this time. Be assured that the call is for our people to locate miles away from the large cities. One look at San Francisco as it is today would speak to your intelligent minds, showing you the necessity of getting out of the cities. . . . {LDE 95.2}

Get out of the cities as soon as possible and purchase a little piece of land where you can have a garden, where your children can watch the flowers growing and learn from them lessons of simplicity and purity.–2SM 356 (1903).

Again and again the Lord has instructed that our people are to take their families away from the cities, into the country, where they can raise their own provisions; for in the future the problem of buying and selling will be a very serious one. We should now begin to heed the instruction given us over and over again: Get out of the cities into rural districts, where the houses are not crowded closely together, and where you will be free from the interference of enemies.–Letter 5, 1904.

The Lord has sent us warning and counsel to get out of the cities. Then let us make no more investments in the cities. Manuscript 76, 1905

Get out of the large cities as fast as possible. Test for churches v6 p 195

I could not sleep past two o’clock this morning. During the night season I was in council. I was pleading with some families to avail themselves of God’s appointed means, and get away from the cities to save their children. Some were loitering, making no determined efforts.  The angels of mercy hurried Lot and his wife and daughters by taking hold of their hands. Had Lot hastened as the Lord desired him to, his wife would not have become a pillar of salt. Lot had too much of a lingering spirit. Let us not be like him. The same voice that warned Lot to leave Sodom bids us, “Come out from among them, and be ye separate, . . . and touch not the unclean.” Those who obey this warning will find a refuge. Let every man be wide awake for himself, and try to save his family. Review and Herald, Dec. 11, 1900.
When iniquity abounds in a nation, there is always to be heard some voice giving warning and instruction, as the voice of Lot was heard in Sodom. Yet Lot could have preserved his family from many evils had he not made his home in this wicked, polluted city. All that Lot and his family did in Sodom could have been done by them, even if they had lived in a place some distance away from the city. Enoch walked with God, and yet he did not live in the midst of any city polluted with every kind of violence and wickedness, as did Lot in Sodom.

If righteous people like enoch left larger cities then how did they evangelize cities.

“As God’s commandment-keeping people, we must leave the cities. As did Enoch, we must work in the cities but not dwell in them.–Manuscript 85, 1899. ”

“Enoch walked with God, and yet he did not live in the midst of any city ” Manuscript 94, 1903

“Leave the cities, and like Enoch come from your retirement to warn the people of the cities.” MR vol 1 p 250

“The cities are to be worked from outposts. Said the messenger of God, “Shall not the cities be warned? Yes, not by God’s people living in them, but by their visiting them, to warn them of what is coming upon the earth.”–Letter 182, 1902.”

What is the result of Lot who tried to evangelize by living in city.

When iniquity abounds in a nation, there is always to be heard some voice giving warning and instruction, as the voice of Lot was heard in Sodom. Yet Lot could have preserved his family from many evils had he not made his home in this wicked, polluted city. All that Lot and his family did in Sodom could have been done by them, even if they had lived in a place some distance away from the city. Enoch walked with God, and yet he did not live in the midst of any city polluted with every kind of violence and wickedness, as did Lot in Sodom.–Manuscript 94, 1903.